Using new brass, like lapua brass, when reloading allows you complete control over the finished cartridge. The only 338 win mag i ever shot was very mild shooting in my opinion. Depending on your personal tolerance and how it fits you that may or may not matter. I set up my rest and rear bag perfectly in line and on target. As i get older, those loads kick harder than they used to. He was saying that no matter how hard it bounces around the bullet has left the barrel long before the rifle starts to recoil. Beautiful walnut stock with cheek rest, decellerator recoil pad. Ever since the advent of the first metallic cartridge the 22 bb cap in 1845, hunters have demanded rifles, cartridges and bullets capable of terminating everything from ground squirrels to elephants. I will primarily be using this rifle for moose and bear, along with a. Increase your rifles performance up to 200 fps without extra chamber pressure, recoil, muzzle blast, temperature sensitivity, fouling, or loss of accuracy. Orders may still be placed for ammunition however the items will be ordered andor put aside accordingly. I think that the 338 shoves rather than the sharper, faster recoil of the 300 magnums. My favorite 338 rifle has become the 338 marlin express though. The 338 win mag shoots heavier and larger diameter bullets that are generally more aerodynamic than the bullets the 300 win mag.
While waiting for the gun to get here i ordered a decent recoil pad and was thinking that depending on the recoil i would need to get a muzzle brake too. The 7mm is kind of in between, but i got a smokin good deal on it. I have killed blacktails, caribou, goat, moose, black bear and brown bears with those bullets. As i said in my cartridge intro for the 8th edition of the nosler reload guide.
By then, the 225 ttsx had arrived, so i switched to them. Unfortunately we are not able to ship ammunition including air pellets. Right click on the image of the load data and use save as. It offers tremendous performance on an incredibly broad spectrum of game at an affordable cost in recoil. Therefore, 300 prc has a slightly flatter trajectory, a little more retained energy, less wind drift, and somewhat more recoil than the 300 win mag. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. Zach and jonas were kind enough to take some of the recoil abuse on their shoulders for a few shots each. Then the dummy decided to cut the 300 rum barrel back to 22 inches. Hi luiss, glad you are comfortable with your new 338. Its just that i just enjoy more shooting with a rifle that has less recoil but which i know is fully capable of taking any animal in the world, the 9. I own a relatively light weight 338 rum and you could consider that as well but recoil would be pretty monstrous without a brake.
Okay, this may seem a bit odd, but work with me here. How to moderate heavy recoil rifles ron spomer outdoors. I dont think the elk will know the difference if the elk is hit with either the 300 ultra mag or the 338 win. Muzzle brakes are fitted to reduce recoil, jump and flash and act as a base for optional iron sights and suppressors.
Choose the lowest price from our multiple warehouses. Would factory loads 180 grain be too much for a kid with the savage p. The 300 wby is definetly louder with more muzzle blast. As a lever fan, the 338 me makes an ideal elk and deer gun. Jan 07, 2010 recoil pads for 338 win mag discussion in. If the object is to tame the recoil, i would think. Slightly reduced loads for 338 win mag for us older fellers. The 300 prc, on the other hand, is a nonbelted magnum that can push the same weight bullets slightly faster without reaching dangerous pressures. A lot less recoil than the magnum but excellent down range ballistics. Sep 18, 2015 e8 338 win mag recoil and sighting in duration.
I have elk hunted with mine but never scored with it. I you do decide to buy a 300 win mag, buy reduced loads until you grow into the rifle. This is the lightest bullet i would shoot in this rifle for accuracy and distance. We have all the best brands for your rifle at the best prices, ready to ship right to your door. We shot and compared three popular options to help you decide on the best elk cartridge for your style of hunting. These sorts of things cannot be accounted for in a recoil table. Winchester took their 338 win mag case and bumped the shoulder forward a bit.
Also, please understand that there are dozens of loads for any given bullet weight in any cartridge that will produce the same velocity, but a different amount of recoil. Alan wilder has initiated a series of youtube clips centred around the selected live events and forthcoming album, out on mute 19th april 2010. For a kill caliber to go beyond 600yards the 338 win mag action is the way to go. I dont down load it, use imr 4831 and imr 7828 under max recommended by the manual. It dominates a vast territory between the muchloved. Just wondering if we have any members here willing to share favorite bulletpowder combos. Whats the recoil like of the 333 win mag i currently shot a remington mountain rifle in 3006 and a 7mm ultra mag have no problem with either i seen a used 338 at the local gun shop that has a good price its been there for 6 months the dealer said not too many people want something that big for pa whitetails but i always prefered the big bore calibers by the way i mostly hunt whitetails with. Is there much difference in recoil between a 270 win vs 7mm.
Dont have any problems shooting either without hearing protection when hunting. With all that powder capacity and power, the 338 win mag is always commonly associated with a 250 grain bullet. Hello, i just purchased a rem700 ss 5r 24 in 300 win mag. Well since i just bought that tikka 338 win mag on here,i say the 338 is the best. This is a 3 or 4 grain from max load that yielded about 2750 fps in his rifle. Thus if my goal was to take out the running gear in hopes of keeping the moose from getting to water, the. Plenty of go to 600yds and beyond plus you can reload it to fit the hunting application you want. Felt recoil will vary from shooter to shooter and rifle to rifle, but free recoil energy is still a useful way to compare cartridges. I have hunted for years with max handloads for my 338 win mag with great success. Read this before you buy one big game hunting blog. I take my 338 win mag to the rifle range and do my best to put some groups down after not firing it for nearly two years.
If i drop the load by 23 gr the velocity will be in the 28002900 range, still plenty of killin power for elk etc. It has less recoil than those as well, and uses bullets with higher ballistic coefficients which lets the. Couple of thing to consider when kill shooting long distance 400 and beyond top of the line optics. Firing both while standing wasnt a problem, even kinda fun. The limbsaver is a great recoil pad, but for large bore weapons, we install the decelerator, i would say, at a 5 to 1.
Heres a short black bear hunt with my friends, dion and nev. My brother bought me one of them for my birthday about 15 yrs. For the sake of simple practicality, given the far greater availability of. The following data indicates estimated felt recoil reduction after the installation of our muzzle brake.
The 338 federal is really not in the magnum class if you compare it to the 338 win mag or the 340 weatherby. I would choose the 338 win between the 2 for more available ammo and a little cheaper. For years i went without a 300 rum and my favorite hunting cartridge has been the 338 win mag. So the figures in any recoil table should be taken as approximate. The 375 i shot was a win 70 sporter with a limbsaver installed and a leupold 1. The 338 is impressive with 225 grains bullets, but so are the 300s with 180 grains. View profile view forum posts private message member join date nov 2007 location anchorage posts 257. Five reasons for 300 remington ultra magnum ron spomer. If you ask me that makes it more of an already great thing, but that of course comes at the price of recoil. Ive looked over several manuals, and scoured the interwebs already, so im starting to get an idea of popular loads. For an elk only rifle, i would probably just go with the. Also, the length of the 300 win mag case as compared to its overall length doesnt allow for longerhigher bc bullets to be loaded out as far as they like to be. So, if im spending a bunch of money or hard to come by spare time for a hunt, id take my sako safarigrade.
Muzzle brake comparison chart odenthals gunsmithing. This cartridge is a very good mediumbore cartridge that was introduced by winchester, along with the. The gun i will get for him is a savage 111 trophy hunter xp. I have ruled out the 338 win mag because all of the load data i have seen just doesnt meet my velocity goals at least not without tons of pressure and a very long barrel. He isnt interested in max velocity just a shootable, accurate load for medium range elk. The 300 weatherby or ultra mag are like peas in a pod. I have a 7mm mag for the antelope and whitetail, but really like the. You will experience about 30% more recoil than your 3006 delivers. Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 3040 krag brass and even one of the newest, 6. I honestly dont see a need to shoot any other bullet in alaska to take everything from sitka blacktails to brown bears with a 338 win mag. The 338 just does so while shooting a larger heavier bullet.
This isnt saying it isnt a good big game cartridge, just that i wouldnt call it a good choice for brown bear. A common remark is, i can actually hear the gas escape from the suppressor. Recoil pads for 338 win mag firearms talk the community. Sa hunter, shoots ostrich in the head at 304m, with voere 338 win mag rifle. But with all good things comes a price, and that price is recoil. Some of yall better stay away from the 416 rigby, the. The new ruger 375 is a whole different ball of wax. With the 338 you can punch through both shoulders and have a decent sized entrance and exit wound. This is about twice as much as the recoil from an average.
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